futuredoc (futuredoc), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: my application process for Medical School
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 16 19:46:46 2007)
First, all information can be obtained from http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/ This website has everything such as requirements, how to register, expenses, etc. Also check out http://www.studentdoctor.net/ and try its forum, almost everyone in my class was using this.
futuredoc (futuredoc), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 弟弟要申请医学院博士，有几个问题
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Sep 16 01:47:45 2007)
I went thru the whole application process to get into med school, so I can
tell you based on my experience.
First thing, if someone wants to apply to med school, he has to be either
green-card holder or citizen, with undergrad degree (few schools don't require
undergrad degree such as U of C). And he must take MCAT (biology + organic
chemistry + sciences + english + 2 essays), score above 30; has community
service/volunteer experience; 3 recommendation letters, and good personal
statement. Then fill up primary application, secondary application (
invitation only), and finally interview process. I think last year, odds
were 1 chosen out of every 64 applicants nation-wide (Note: lot more people
decided not to apply at all, so the actual odds are even higher). And a
good score can get u one foot in the door, but they are really looking for
rounded person (quan mian fa zhan).
Secondly, scholarships are very few, and almost no one has scholarship that
provides full-coverage (because tuition is sky-high), unless they chose to
take military (air force, navy or army) scholarship, which means he has to
be a citizen, and serve in military after he graduates. Most people take
finally, I think board exams are not easy -- although I have not taken any (
it's too early since I'm just starting my first year).
And I want to say 2 things: 1) I have been reading a lot here and I
appreciate what dokknife has to say because he is telling it as it is. 2)
in my opinion MD is the best profession not because of amount of monetary
reward but because what you can do daily. It takes more than high scores
and knowledge to be a good doctor.
My application process was pretty pathetic. I was doing my Master's degree
in another major (not related to biology or chemistry), so I had to take
extra classes to fulfill the requirements, and volunteer at a local hospital
, finishing up my Master's degree and do my GA. I took MCAT (it's an 8
hours long test), scored 30 (ok score, not high), GPA 3.57/4.0 -- if you
want high score and have about $1600 to spare, you can take Kaplan or
Princeton prep courses (come with very good books and sample exams). I
studied on my own using books borrowed from library and from friends (I don'
t have a lot of money and time, and since the above website listed what will
be tested, I decided to prepare on my own --took me 3 months, but I
recommend at least 6 months).
One important thing is to know which schools you want to apply for, and
speak to admission officer because they will tell you their own individual
requirements (not exactly universal), and sometimes they will give you hints
on how to improve your chances, or how to tailor your personal statement
towards those schools. Another reason why you need to know your targets is
that you can go to studentdoctor.net to see medical students' own ranking of
the schools and their own experiences. I am 1.5th generation immigrant,
and since my parents have retired I want to stay close to them, so I
decided to only apply to schools in the state I live in.
Send in primary application (15 pages long, cost at least $120, depends on
how many schools you apply, you can get price from amcas website listed
above) as early as possible, which means you have to collect recommendation
letters early (from undergrad science teachers, employer, hospital I
volunteered, and doctors that I did research with), generally 3 letters.
After primary application ( applied to 7) I received secondary applications
from schools (6) that liked me enough. I did not submit all secondary
applications because with each application is application fee of at least $
75 (yes, I know I am cheap, but my family's really tight on money). I sent
in 3 secondary applications, rejected by 1 school right away (was a sad day
in my life, and because of that decided not to submit secondary application
to another school that's better than this one), put on hold by 1 school (
didn't really want to go there), and got interview invitation for the school
I'm currently in. *Important note to future applicants: apply to more
schools, most of my classmates were shocked that I did such stupid thing,
they all applied to at least 8, and submitted whatever secondary
applications they received).
Interview was almost one day. ( *Note: 1) be nice to everyone, because
people are watching at any given moment, and they do talk to each other. 2)
dress up, but no short skirt. There's one girl from U of C who was smart
and good score and everything, but she was wearing skirt that's way too
short. I never saw her again. ) Some schools have group interview as well
as individual, my school had 2 faculty interviews and lunch with current
I was asked to wait for my 1st interviewer, but actually she was standing 3
feet away from me talking on hospital phone and she was observing me (we all
had to wear name tags). I think my first impression was good. First she
told me about herself, what she does, how's her lifestyle, etc. we had a
good talk about current health care issues (Must stay informed, must have
your own opinion which can be different from hers, must be able to give
reasons/logical explanations), and I decided to take over the interview (
because I was afraid she'll ask me things I do not know :P), so I started to
grab an opportunity (must be natural, otherwise you will look arrogant) to
tell her about my research, volunteer experience, and what made me
interested in medicine, etc. And you must have prepared questions for
interviewers to show you've done your homework, you are not blindly applying
to schools, and you are interested.
2nd interviewer was a chief resident in GI whose father has a factory in
shanghai and he has visited there several times. So our talk focused more
on differences between chinese & american healthcare systems (thank god I
prepared a little bit), then shifted to cultural differences (every chinese
can give lengthy lectures on this one ;)), ying-yang theory, how to find
balance in life.
Both interviewers were more interested to know that 1) you have your own
hobby outside of work/medicine, 2) you know why you want to get into
medicine. Because at this point, every interviewee qualifies, they just
want a more rounded person.
After that is group lunch with current students, you can ask anything (do
not ask stupid questions, it's a chance to show you are interested in that
school, and show that you have good communication skills). Then Dean come
to talk to us, then some other information session.
I liked the school a lot so my mind was made on that day.
I think med school cost has risen even for in-state colleges, you can check
studentdoctor.net, I remember that site has something shows how much each
school is. From the schools I've spoken to, they all said green-card or
citizens only (even private schools). Maybe there are schools don't
restrict on citizenship, but personally I don't know any.
This is just my experience. on studentdoctor.net forum you can see many
other people's experiences. Personally I think it's tough for someone to
apply who newly come to this country. Even if your english is excellent,
you have to do really well and impress interviewers. Even now that we're
already in school, all my professors encourage us to talk to each other to
build up network for future, and school organizes a lot of events for us to
socialize. Because a lot of times there is business & political sides
involved in medicine.
Maybe your brother want to consider OD? They can take board and if they
pass they can practice. I personally met 2 ODs did it that way.