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Dr. 二餅: 再议Malignant program survival
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发信人: diarrhea (二餅), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: 再议Malignant program survival (based on Yf’s post)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 14 09:12:55 2009)

text after < are quotation from yf's post

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Based on Yf’s post, what is the definition of malignant program?

My answer is patient population! How good or how bad of the program depends
on patient population.

>The purpose of this poster is to prepare for those who don't have choice at
>all. Match is really a MACTH, not everybody has many choices, you can't find
>a better place, the program can't find a better person. So you MATCH.

I finished my IM residency training but I still don’t understand why I
matched.

>…interviewed 8 people for one position, all of the other interviewees are
>prilim with H1 or J1 visa, if they can't find a spot, they have to go back
>home. They told me " At least you have green card, and no matter how bad
>your program is, you have 2 more years' contract. But we have nothing." So I
> think it's inhumane to compete with those poor guys who worry about their
>status and have families relying on them.

I don’t agree w/ you. I “wasted” years to do postD for my green card.
This is pay back. 职场是战场.

>I have a second year, who was interviewed 2 years ago by 16 programs, many
>of them were saying very good words to him, he didn't accept our program's
>prematch, waited for match, but all those nice programs filled their spots
>with AMGs, He ranked our program very low but still he matched to our
>program and he said he almost cried on match day. Another second year, went
>into match twice, first time he refuse the prematch of our program, didn't
>get matched to anywhere. Second time, he was again interviewed, and again
>matched to our program.

I love yf’s posts. You tell the truth. Some people here are very stubborn.
They don’t know the reality. They don’t know the world 5 miles away from
them. We CMGs don’t have the equal opportunity compared to the graduates
from In, Pa, Mid east; don’t even mention the graduates from Europe. How
many IM programs are ranking CMGs? How many CMGs are ranked in those IM
programs they rank CMG (Lots of IM program never IV any CMGs!).

>A lot of us have high scores, but not everybody has double 99s, a lot of
>Indians and Europeans are freshly graduated or they have strong clinical
>background. But somehow we matched here. I want to say, this forum is a
>little biased, a lot of non 99 holders only read but not speak, it looks
>like that it's easy to get 99 scores, it's easy to get into very good
>university programs. But the reality is most of us are average Joes, we need
> to see
>the whole picture, we need to know the true stories, we need to get well
>prepared, I didn't mean to discourage anybody, on the contrary, I want more
>and more CMGs to survive those kind of programs and thrive in the end. To be
> honest, a lot of CMGs will end up in those "IMG friendly" programs, and
>they can have a very successful career from then on.

“I want to say, this forum is a little biased…”A little? A lot! 二饼大夫
就是为此在这和人砖来砖去.
Regarding 99/99. I suggest my PD focus on 85-95. Most of 99/99 have some
problems on interpersonal skills or 感觉过于良好. Don't be upset. We have 2-
3 99/99s every year. NO exception!
Most CMGs are not 99/99, old graduate (>10 year), with or without research
experience, with or without clinical experience: CMGs是一群有”先天不足”的
candidates.

Best wishes for those who are waiting for Match results. I wish those who
were told being ranked very high get match next Mon (Promised). I wish those
who were not told being ranked get match next Mon (Surprised).



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※ 修改:·soaplover 於 Mar 14 13:14:12 2009 修改本文·[FROM: 70.143.]


发信人: benpu (麦地大奔-Think or Sink), 信区: MedicalCareer
标 题: Re: 再议Malignant program survival (based on Yf’s post)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Mar 14 10:37:21 2009)

have to agree with you, Dr. 二饼,partially. 因为先天不足,CMG要付出比其他
IMG更多的辛劳。有些malignant的program要take advantage,也没有办法。this is
how the system works. 任何行业都是这样。

从前斑竹的角度来看,论坛biased有两点原因:

1。成绩好的更愿意和大家分享,成绩不好的因为觉得没面子就不愿意冒头,造成好像
99唾手可得的假象。其实教训和经验一样重要。

2。愿意发言的一般personality比较外向,interpersonal communication相对好些,
可能IV效果相对好些,match结果也比较鼓舞人心。

不过我觉得bias也有两方面的作用:

1。可能没有给大家一个全面的认识,这是不好的一面。

2。考版的压力很大,一个激励的环境还是很有帮助的。既然进malignant的比不进好,
那么其他的进了之后再考虑好了,现阶段就要心无旁骛的专心考版。从这点来看,也不
是什么坏事了。

anyway,修行靠自身。torture是暂时的,为了行医的终极目标,也只能咬牙坚持。再
malignant的program也是大多数resident都能毕业的,毕业后不就海阔天空了吗?
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