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仔细看了一下Durbin提出来的这个RELIEF
[版面:落地生根][首篇作者:Hierophant] , 2019年10月17日10:50:47 ,2166次阅读,11次回复
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发信人: Hierophant (Hierophant), 信区: Immigration
标  题: 仔细看了一下Durbin提出来的这个RELIEF
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 17 11:07:46 2019, 美东)

https://www.durbin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/durbin-leahy-introduce
-new-legislation-to-increase-number-of-green-cards-available-eliminating-the
-backlog

Specifically, the RELIEF Act will:

Eliminate the family and employment green card backlog over five years in
the order in which applications were filed;
Keep American families together by classifying spouses and children of
lawful permanent residents (LPRs) as immediate relatives and exempting
derivative beneficiaries of employment-based petitions from annual green
card limits;
Protect “aging out” children who qualify for LPR status based on a parent
’s immigration petition;
Lift country caps; and,
Extend the “hold harmless” clause from H.R. 1044 that exempts immigrant
visa petitions approved prior to enactment from the lifting of country caps
to petitions approved for five years after enactment.


感觉上:
0 Dick Durbin作为民主党人 感觉字里行间最优先的还是亲属移民
1 必须蹲满五年(以PD计) 蹲不满五年想都不要想 所以一类还是且排着吧 23类的中国
人目前来看 on paper还差得远 况且目前on paper 最长的backlog是亲属移民的墨国和
菲律宾 中印EB?呵呵 EB1就更算了吧 again, on paper EB1现在大家都没到五年
2 随行家属不算名额 这个可能算是惟一的一个重大利好 两党都认可 不过too good to
be true EB5大款们诉讼都没过 况且这个大概等价于double甚至triple EB总额
3 为超龄H4子女加强CSPA 说实话这个就是USCIS一个memo的事情 我倾向于认为他想多
加一个contingency是一个
4 lift country caps 没说数字等于搅浑水 光是定下来数字这一项就又够扯皮好几年
5 no harm延到五年 这个是真的针对S386的

最后 在现在大环境整体对移民不友好的情况下(因为这个法案最后必须要总统签字) 这
个法案一上来把亲属移民和职业移民的二十万、十四万的总数写出来了 明摆着就是让
占人口一半的右派去攻击这个法案 想尽办法拖时间的

借用双峰结尾的著名台词:
I will see you again in twenty five years

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发信人: Hierophant (Hierophant), 信区: Immigration
标  题: 386被Durbin否了 Durbin的2603也被否了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 17 14:01:52 2019, 美东)

386被Durbin否了
见这里
https://www.facebook.com/ImmigrationVoice/posts/2688303054569235?__xts__%5B0
%5D=68.ARDT9ErVej7EUrdMti-
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AkLwP1FJRVe6JnovKcWfJvBvY1VUNSpsqnu5ZzddmCESz2lPhKsGPaxzXrtv1cgdD8vnBvQyrMHI
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Durbin的2603也被否了:
Update (10/17/19): Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) blocks S.2603, drafted by Sen.
Dick Durbin (D-IL), from unanimous consent.

More from Breitbart:

"Kennedy’s October 16 objection blocked Durbin’s effort to pass his “
RELIEF Act” via the Senate’s fast-track “Unanimous Consent” process.

...

"Durbin’s RELIEF Act would double the annual award of green cards given to
the cheap foreign workers who are hired by American companies for jobs in
the United States. It would double the annual inflow to 120,000 workers by
exempting their immediate families from the annual cap. The bill would also
lift the annual “country caps” and so allow companies to annually reward
roughly 100,000 Indian visa-workers with valuable, government-provided green
-cards, up from 10,000 Indian workers a year under the current rules."

我老之前就说 增加cap这种事情 除非能从彩票绿卡出 否则共和党绝对不干
现在好了 水越搅越浑

【 在 Hierophant (Hierophant) 的大作中提到: 】
: https://www.durbin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/durbin-leahy-
introduce
: -new-legislation-to-increase-number-of-green-cards-available-eliminating-
the
: -backlog
: Specifically, the RELIEF Act will:
: Eliminate the family and employment green card backlog over five years in
: the order in which applications were filed;
: Keep American families together by classifying spouses and children of
: lawful permanent residents (LPRs) as immediate relatives and exempting
: derivative beneficiaries of employment-based petitions from annual green
: card limits;
: ...................


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发信人: cqwood (遥远海边), 信区: Immigration
标  题: Re: Durbin的2603被否了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 17 14:06:14 2019, 美东)

刚从一半开始看的,不是Lee在上面讲个不停么
还是说他为了Durbin的支持,直接拿s2603来UC?
【 在 Hierophant (Hierophant) 的大作中提到: 】
: Update (10/17/19): Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) blocks S.2603, drafted by Sen.
: Dick Durbin (D-IL), from unanimous consent.
: More from Breitbart:
: "Kennedy’s October 16 objection blocked Durbin’s effort to pass his “
: RELIEF Act” via the Senate’s fast-track “Unanimous Consent” process.
: ...
: "Durbin’s RELIEF Act would double the annual award of green cards given
to
: the cheap foreign workers who are hired by American companies for jobs in
: the United States. It would double the annual inflow to 120,000 workers by
: exempting their immediate families from the annual cap. The bill would
also
: ...................


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发信人: Hierophant (Hierophant), 信区: Immigration
标  题: Re: Durbin的2603被否了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 17 14:06:54 2019, 美东)

不好意思没发全
386被Durbin否了
Durbin的2603被LA的肯尼迪否了
【 在 cqwood (遥远海边) 的大作中提到: 】
: 刚从一半开始看的,不是Lee在上面讲个不停么
: 还是说他为了Durbin的支持,直接拿s2603来UC?
: to
: also



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发信人: cqwood (遥远海边), 信区: Immigration
标  题: Re: Durbin的2603被否了
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 17 14:09:51 2019, 美东)

这台下没搞定就来UC,妥妥的做戏了,难怪提前也没太多的消息
【 在 Hierophant (Hierophant) 的大作中提到: 】
: 不好意思没发全
: 386被Durbin否了
: Durbin的2603被LA的肯尼迪否了



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发信人: curlman (Wei), 信区: Immigration
标  题: Re: 仔细看了一下Durbin提出来的这个RELIEF
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 17 14:12:50 2019, 美东)

Durbin 原话:  I'M GOING TO OFFER UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO LIFT THAT 140,000 CAP
AND WITHIN FIVE YEARS EVERYONE WAITING IN LINE WILL GET THEIR CHANCE FOR A
GREEN CARD -- FIVE YEARS, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE REST OF THE WORLD.
LET'S DO THIS IN A FAIR FASHION.
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发信人: Hierophant (Hierophant), 信区: Immigration
标  题: Re: 仔细看了一下Durbin提出来的这个RELIEF
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 17 14:14:47 2019, 美东)

然后就被共和党否了。。。
这种增加总额的事情太激进了 根本就不是想解决问题的合理办法 倒不如说是给三哥演
戏 针锋相对搅浑水
【 在 curlman (Wei) 的大作中提到: 】
: Durbin 原话:  I'M GOING TO OFFER UNANIMOUS CONSENT TO LIFT THAT 140,000
CAP
:  AND WITHIN FIVE YEARS EVERYONE WAITING IN LINE WILL GET THEIR CHANCE FOR
A
: GREEN CARD -- FIVE YEARS, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE REST OF THE WORLD.
: LET'S DO THIS IN A FAIR FASHION.



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发信人: curlman (Wei), 信区: Immigration
标  题: Re: 仔细看了一下Durbin提出来的这个RELIEF
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 17 14:46:20 2019, 美东)

Mike Lee: I REITERATE MY VIEW THAT NO FURTHER FACTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS
IS NECESSARY. I DON'T BELIEVE A HEARING IS NECESSARY. I'M NEVER GOING TO
OBJECT TO SOMEONE HOLDING MORE HEARINGS ON IT. IF THAT'S WHAT THE CHAIRMAN
OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS INCLINED TO DO, I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO
INTERFERE WITH THAT. IN THE MEANTIME, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING
I CAN TO GET THIS THING PASSED. IT'S READY TO PASS. IT'S READY TO PASS
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标  题: Re: 仔细看了一下Durbin提出来的这个RELIEF
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 17 14:59:58 2019, 美东)

HR 1044 was objected by Senator Durbin today.

https://www.dailypress.senate.gov/?m=20191017

1:20 p.m. Senator Lee spoke about the allocation of green cards to high
skilled immigrants. Senator Lee asked u.c. to consider and pass H.R. 1044,
Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act with the Lee amendment. Senator
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标  题: Re: 仔细看了一下Durbin提出来的这个RELIEF
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2:16 p.m. Senator Durbin spoke about immigration and asked unanimous consent
for passage of S. 2603. Senator Lee objected.
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发信人: Emerald01 (Emerald), 信区: Immigration
标  题: Re: 仔细看了一下Durbin提出来的这个RELIEF
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 17 15:34:50 2019, 美东)

不用在看这些东西了,最后台上做做戏,台下结论就是维持原样。不扩大绿卡数量,现
行的政策确实对所有人综合来看最合理
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发信人: absFFT (), 信区: Immigration
标  题: Re: 仔细看了一下Durbin提出来的这个RELIEF
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 17 19:21:06 2019, 美东)

其实几十年来一直都是这样,已经上了车的人希望赶紧关上车门。可以理解他们的心态
,物以稀为贵,要是拿卡的人多了,美国绿卡确实不值钱了

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